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- What is a Single non-custodial Father to do?
Some of you here at S-P know me, others do not, I have been around here for awhile. I am sad to report that I have now been a non-custodial single parent for one quarter of a century (25 years) so yes I am older than dirt and I do remember when Jesus was a Corporal. I cunsel Fathers to keep their cool and not get baited into arguments, with their ex or with their children, unfortunately I am human. Yes I have paid child support for twenty-five years, I also maintain a home for my children and myself, and when school is getting near I buy my youngest clothes, I do get him to aswimming lessons, participate in his school whenever I can, and I am fairly active as a Boy Scout Leader. Always trying to create opportunities for my youngest, oldest will be twenty-five in a couple of months. In our area the Boy Scouts invite Cub Scouts and Webelos Scouts to their Fall Camporee. My youngest and I discussed this months ago, and planned on attending. I talked with my son and his mother two weeks ago, and all was a go, last night I telephoned my son and his mother to again confirm that I would pick my son up this morning, we would go to Camporee spend the night together and go to Church in the morning, last night my baby mama said well she had thought of a Motorcycle ride with her boyfriend and my son but that did not have to be on Saturday. As I drove to pick up my son this morning, I telehponed to say thaht I was on the way and would be there in about twenty minutes, my son said "I don't think I want to go to Camporee" I asked why, "he said I don't want to and I am busy" and hung up. I called back, his mother answered and announced "Robert, it is your Father calling to yell at you some more", I again asked why not, explained that I had taken the day off from work, we had not only made plans but that we had confirmed them twelve hours earlier, my son just could not explain why he now elected not to follow our plans and left the phone, after two minutes I called back again and aksed "Son are we going to spend any time together this weekend" he answered "I don't know" and was laughing with his mother. Point is there may be good reason that Fathers become frustrated. Ladies, in America, according to the 2000 census most children are raised by single mothers. My ex is a wild child, we split up becuase she liked to hang out at friends houses who just happened to be male, worked a shift other than I did, and somehow I just did not think that was appropriate, I do not, have not and will not be a drug user another area we disagree about. I know she sat my son and I up, she has really been at it for about sixteen months now, I should have let the matter sit after two minutes of the first phone call, but then again, how do I coach my son to keep his committments, realise the investment made in these opportunities and be a good communicator ( most probably I should have waited for awhile before calling, but by that time he would be on the back of a Harley, and his motehr doesn't answer her phone then. Ladies until you realise that there are women in America who find some delight in playing this game at least on a weekly basis, although Fathers definetly lose out it is our children hurt the most. Truly, Bob van Ee, a DAD Wyoming, Michigan Lela, as a Dad, I think I am responsible for my son's development and opportunties in life. Others No I am not asking how to raise a child, it is the impediments to effective parenting that concern me.
A I agree you may have gone overboard....telephoned to say you were on the way he say's "I don't think I want to go to Camporee"( this is where I would, and have, said,OK, give me a call when you want to do something)...you called back, then you called back again. The children do figure out who is playing games, it may not be until they are teens or young adults, but that's when the parent that doesn't play games gets his or her reward for acting in the best interest of the children. My ex did similar things, including berating me, but when they were old enough they began to realize the things she said didn't fit with their memories of our life as a family. That's when they started asking me questions. Some of those answers were, I love your mother, Love doesn't die, it often turns into anger, but doesn't die. That I had a wonderful 12 years with their mother, but she didn't want to be with me anymore. That I would do it all again if I new what I know now. My children didn't hurt from her behavior, and I have a wonderful relationship with my children....and their mother....hasn't been in contact with them in 10 years. But you let your wife have the upper hand this time, she wanted to upset you, and you allowed yourself to be upset. When you stop giving her the reaction she wants she'll stop trying. We usually only do that which produces the results we want. I'm afraid your final comment which is to all women--"Ladies until you realise that there are women in America who find some delight in playing this game at least on a weekly basis, although Fathers definetly lose out it is our children hurt the most."--- is unfair to most women. Do something to take your mind off the incident, your anger is only going to damage your health. Also your additional details "I am reponsible for my son's..." and "impediments to effective...." seem to only serve to justify your anger in your own mind.
Some of you here at S-P know me, others do not, I have been around here for awhile. I am sad to report that I have now been a non-custodial single parent for one quarter of a century (25 years) so yes I am older than dirt and I do remember when Jesus was a Corporal. I cunsel Fathers to keep their cool and not get baited into arguments, with their ex or with their children, unfortunately I am human. Yes I have paid child support for twenty-five years, I also maintain a home for my children and myself, and when school is getting near I buy my youngest clothes, I do get him to aswimming lessons, participate in his school whenever I can, and I am fairly active as a Boy Scout Leader. Always trying to create opportunities for my youngest, oldest will be twenty-five in a couple of months. In our area the Boy Scouts invite Cub Scouts and Webelos Scouts to their Fall Camporee. My youngest and I discussed this months ago, and planned on attending. I talked with my son and his mother two weeks ago, and all was a go, last night I telephoned my son and his mother to again confirm that I would pick my son up this morning, we would go to Camporee spend the night together and go to Church in the morning, last night my baby mama said well she had thought of a Motorcycle ride with her boyfriend and my son but that did not have to be on Saturday. As I drove to pick up my son this morning, I telehponed to say thaht I was on the way and would be there in about twenty minutes, my son said "I don't think I want to go to Camporee" I asked why, "he said I don't want to and I am busy" and hung up. I called back, his mother answered and announced "Robert, it is your Father calling to yell at you some more", I again asked why not, explained that I had taken the day off from work, we had not only made plans but that we had confirmed them twelve hours earlier, my son just could not explain why he now elected not to follow our plans and left the phone, after two minutes I called back again and aksed "Son are we going to spend any time together this weekend" he answered "I don't know" and was laughing with his mother. Point is there may be good reason that Fathers become frustrated. Ladies, in America, according to the 2000 census most children are raised by single mothers. My ex is a wild child, we split up becuase she liked to hang out at friends houses who just happened to be male, worked a shift other than I did, and somehow I just did not think that was appropriate, I do not, have not and will not be a drug user another area we disagree about. I know she sat my son and I up, she has really been at it for about sixteen months now, I should have let the matter sit after two minutes of the first phone call, but then again, how do I coach my son to keep his committments, realise the investment made in these opportunities and be a good communicator ( most probably I should have waited for awhile before calling, but by that time he would be on the back of a Harley, and his motehr doesn't answer her phone then. Ladies until you realise that there are women in America who find some delight in playing this game at least on a weekly basis, although Fathers definetly lose out it is our children hurt the most. Truly, Bob van Ee, a DAD Wyoming, Michigan Lela, as a Dad, I think I am responsible for my son's development and opportunties in life. Others No I am not asking how to raise a child, it is the impediments to effective parenting that concern me.
A I agree you may have gone overboard....telephoned to say you were on the way he say's "I don't think I want to go to Camporee"( this is where I would, and have, said,OK, give me a call when you want to do something)...you called back, then you called back again. The children do figure out who is playing games, it may not be until they are teens or young adults, but that's when the parent that doesn't play games gets his or her reward for acting in the best interest of the children. My ex did similar things, including berating me, but when they were old enough they began to realize the things she said didn't fit with their memories of our life as a family. That's when they started asking me questions. Some of those answers were, I love your mother, Love doesn't die, it often turns into anger, but doesn't die. That I had a wonderful 12 years with their mother, but she didn't want to be with me anymore. That I would do it all again if I new what I know now. My children didn't hurt from her behavior, and I have a wonderful relationship with my children....and their mother....hasn't been in contact with them in 10 years. But you let your wife have the upper hand this time, she wanted to upset you, and you allowed yourself to be upset. When you stop giving her the reaction she wants she'll stop trying. We usually only do that which produces the results we want. I'm afraid your final comment which is to all women--"Ladies until you realise that there are women in America who find some delight in playing this game at least on a weekly basis, although Fathers definetly lose out it is our children hurt the most."--- is unfair to most women. Do something to take your mind off the incident, your anger is only going to damage your health. Also your additional details "I am reponsible for my son's..." and "impediments to effective...." seem to only serve to justify your anger in your own mind.
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